tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1279973426476621559.post934214739322619009..comments2023-04-03T05:20:01.318-04:00Comments on Young, Hip and Conservative: a skeptical blog: We waited a week for that?Michaelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00427964335321253510noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1279973426476621559.post-91862372904002397372012-12-27T00:08:43.981-05:002012-12-27T00:08:43.981-05:00Nate, if these people are as crazy as you say (and...Nate, if these people are as crazy as you say (and I am quite ready to grant they are) what makes you think that they're going to be convinced by prudential considerations (deterrents)? If someone is willing to kill himself, after he commits his crime, how is the knowledge that all the rest of the people around him have guns going to deter him? All he needs is to catch them off guard, and he'll do the damage he wants to do.<br /><br />I think it's hard to make arguments that involve this sort of appeal to psychology. We have suspicions about psychology that are correct most of the time, but these sorts of extreme cases make it hard to apply them.<br /><br />But I do agree with what you said, that crazy people are going to do these things in any way they can -- and I don't think that such-and-such a law will have good consequences or prevent bad cases is enough to justify its passage.firezdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11473050286104950159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1279973426476621559.post-84669198123897912512012-12-25T01:01:46.317-05:002012-12-25T01:01:46.317-05:00Obviously the point is for them to shoot people, t...Obviously the point is for them to shoot people, that's part of what guns are for. If the gun control loons think that is a point scored for them, they are out of their minds. I certainly wouldn't expect them to leave a gun sat on their desk instead of giving an active shooter a lead supplement as he shoots the school up.<br /><br />In addition to owning a business, I work for one of the school departments in my area, I've often thought how absurd it is that I'm sitting there, likely with more firearms training and certainly with more combat training than most of the local police. God forbid anything should ever happen, but if it does, I'll be beside myself that the government forced me to sit there trained, but unarmed as people are gunned down left, right, and center.<br /><br />Frankly, everyone should be more worried about the bilge that gets taught in public schools, even irresponsible teachers with weapons is a small risk by comparison.Natehttp://congressshallmakenolaw.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1279973426476621559.post-7819475955901869802012-12-23T22:54:46.323-05:002012-12-23T22:54:46.323-05:00@Nate
I don't know if that was directed at me,...@Nate<br />I don't know if that was directed at me, but I do agree. My point wasn't that there aren't crazy people, my point was that for the next three months we're all going to waste our time. Other than that, anti-teachers with guns people keep saying, "you want to give them guns so that 'they' can then shoot people". How would you respond to that?Jakenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1279973426476621559.post-18278934352126361752012-12-23T10:55:07.113-05:002012-12-23T10:55:07.113-05:00They relly need to start searching people for sign...They relly need to start searching people for signs on the way into these things. Forget weapons.Natehttp://congressshallmakenolaw.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1279973426476621559.post-24718537459429610902012-12-23T10:03:28.847-05:002012-12-23T10:03:28.847-05:00The next massacre will happen because there will a...The next massacre will happen because there will always be crazy people. If it wasn't guns it would be explosives, if not that it would be a disgruntled cafeteria employee putting strychnine in the salad dressing, if it weren't that it would be arson, if it weren't that it would be...<br /><br />As Michael says, give trained, willing and licensed school employees the ability to carry arms suitable for defensive use. The biggest effect would come from the uncertainty about which, or how many, people are armed within the building. <br /><br />You will never see the headquarters of the Maine Rifle Association or the Sportsman's Alliance of Maine stormed by a gunman for a similar reason.Natehttp://congressshallmakenolaw.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1279973426476621559.post-78072166359495501282012-12-23T04:03:41.060-05:002012-12-23T04:03:41.060-05:00That's what's really sad about this whole ...That's what's really sad about this whole "debate". We're basically going to spend the next three months arguing about things that aren't true (that assault rifles are military weapons) and then our government will pass a solution that will do nothing, then we'll scratch our heads when the next massacre happens, and cycle repeats it self.Jakenoreply@blogger.com